Monday, February 4, 2008

Better Late Than Never (We'll See).


I have better contacts at some of the American whiskey producers than I do at others. I don't know anybody at Diageo. I know Tom Bulleit (Bulleit Bourbon) and I met the Diageo brand guy responsible for North American whiskey (big gun is Crown Royal) once about three years ago. That's it. But I do have a name of somebody in PR who did return an email from me once, so I tried her on the Dickel questions. 

Here's what I asked: 

"What is the status of Dickel No. 8, re the shortage reported by AP in December? Will Cascade Hollow continue to be distributed after No. 8 returns? Are there shortages at retail of Dickel No. 12 and Barrel Select too, as has been reported to me?

"Also, I noticed on the Dickel web site what appears to be some new historical information. I would like to know the basis for the claim that George and Augusta Dickel visited Tullahoma in 1867 and that George Dickel established a business there in 1870. 

"Most accounts with which I am familiar have Cascade Distillery established in 1877/8 and independent of Dickel until 1888. Those particular dates come from Dr. Nicholas Morgan, who was archivist for United Distillers pre Diageo. That information is more than 10-years-old, so maybe something new has been discovered." 

That guy from Utah got mad at me for not talking to him before I wrote what I did about his product. Maybe Diageo will feel the same way. I'm sympathetic in principle, but since I'm writing, in both cases, about stuff they've either published directly or caused to be published through the magic of PR, I feel like they already had their say. I have not, by the way, heard anything more from either the High West guy or the Templeton guy.

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6 comments:

  1. skuFebruary 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM

    Recently I had a Dickel No. 12, which I hadn't had in a while, and it was much better than I remembered. I wonder if they are using ever older whiskey in it because of those shrinking stocks.

    Have you had a recent No. 12?

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  2. Chuck CowderyFebruary 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM

    Not recently. I can't find it either.

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  3. AnonymousFebruary 20, 2008 at 5:20 PM

    Just stumbled across this post via a Google News alert. Let me see what sort of information I can get for you.

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  4. AnonymousFebruary 21, 2008 at 5:36 PM

    Here's the official stance/corporate speak on why Cascade Hollow looks like No. 8, I couldn't obtain anything else.

    "George Dickel Cascade Hollow Batch Recipe is clearly labeled as such.
    The black label reflects the consistency our consumers have come to expect from this iconic brand, and will help them find their favorite Tennessee whisky on store shelves."

    I have also heard incidents where No. 12 was in short supply, though only in certain areas of the country. Here's the response I was given, it's more official stance/corporate speak.

    "Due to the success of George Dickel #12, demand is outpacing supply and we've had to temporarily cease shipping to many of our markets while additional whiskey ages. As a neighboring state to Florida, Georgia still currently has shipments of George Dickel No. 12. We expect to resume shipping GD #12 to Florida in February."

    I'm still waiting on answers for some other questions.

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  5. Chuck CowderyFebruary 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM

    So am I. Now 17 days and counting.

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  6. AnonymousMarch 3, 2008 at 11:46 PM

    Well, looks like I'm not getting any answers either. If I ever do hear anything, I'll be sure to let you know.

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