tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post7624368562991465239..comments2024-03-17T14:10:05.912-05:00Comments on The Chuck Cowdery Blog: Orphan Barrel Project Shows Diageo Disrespects American WhiskeyChuck Cowderyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-35926568763019079322014-10-20T00:20:25.553-05:002014-10-20T00:20:25.553-05:00but they can't use the old name? i don't ...but they can't use the old name? i don't get the snobbery here. sounds like they came up with a concept, bottled fine stuff, and named it some silly names, why the hostility? <br /><br />sounds like it is orphaned....not really part of the original brand or sold in past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-44159063269495234542014-06-26T10:26:55.694-05:002014-06-26T10:26:55.694-05:00Haha!!! Some people think pretty highly of themsel...Haha!!! Some people think pretty highly of themselves in here! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-6558642187030354632014-06-24T14:02:50.798-05:002014-06-24T14:02:50.798-05:00Finally, the Orphan Barrels aren't even orphan...Finally, the Orphan Barrels aren't even orphans. They've been living with their mother since they were born.Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-8168314089253235622014-06-06T16:38:48.840-05:002014-06-06T16:38:48.840-05:00How limited is limited? Bottle number 84,868 of Ba...How limited is limited? Bottle number 84,868 of Barterhouse has been spotted in the wild.Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-64978778797288751842014-06-01T01:06:42.526-05:002014-06-01T01:06:42.526-05:00The labels pictured are early prototypes. Some thi...The labels pictured are early prototypes. Some things changed along the way.Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-23891697285083612052014-06-01T00:19:49.962-05:002014-06-01T00:19:49.962-05:00WTF?! My Blowhard label is blue and only 26 years ...WTF?! My Blowhard label is blue and only 26 years old with "Kentucky Bourbon Whiskey" above the whale. The pic posted here is 27 with "American Whiskey". Are there different releases out? All the sudden I'm feeling boondoggled. Oh well... I'm still enjoying the juice. merdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04511185184630261701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-47288378826715619342014-05-28T20:16:16.555-05:002014-05-28T20:16:16.555-05:00I think it was someone on SB.com that said it firs...I think it was someone on SB.com that said it first and I love his line.<br />Old Blowhard sounds like something that should be on the back bar in the saloon in the movie "Blazing Saddles".<br /><br />Oscarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08938842148566189917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-68076395643044825582014-05-28T11:02:52.933-05:002014-05-28T11:02:52.933-05:00Diageo hath committed lèse-majesté! Bourbon the M...Diageo hath committed lèse-majesté! Bourbon the Magnificent, (as is so hailed within the borders of our divine Empire) is accorded the same Imperial cult legal protections as our mighty Emperor, Brown-Forman!<br /><br />Verily Diageo shalt be penalized: 21 million gold ducats, 60 lashes and 70 strokes, seizure of its Connecticut lands, and one and 1/2 year of penal servitude to Emperor Brown-Forman. <br /><br />Hail Brown-Forman!<br /><br />Respectable enough for you, Chuck?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-71816664496913205992014-05-27T23:47:54.491-05:002014-05-27T23:47:54.491-05:00I'm a bit torn on this. Yeah, I tend to agree...I'm a bit torn on this. Yeah, I tend to agree with what Chuck wrote here. But Barterhouse at least is pretty damned good. And frankly, given the unobtainium-ness of most 15+ year bourbons, I have to give Diageo at least a <i>little</i> credit for putting this stuff out - regardless of the BS marketing they employed to go along with.Jason Q.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-81266361878022319582014-05-27T23:09:41.698-05:002014-05-27T23:09:41.698-05:00Sheep Dip? (o.k., that's not a bourbon)...Whis...Sheep Dip? (o.k., that's not a bourbon)...WhistlePig?...Old Blowhard? Not exactly names that'd make you smack your lips and go "yum, that sounds TASTY!!" if you didn't already know whisky. -And who at Diageo came up with "Old Blowhard"? Were they thinking of poor ol' Pappy himself, perhaps? KIDDING!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-44273509774348839122014-05-27T16:09:43.042-05:002014-05-27T16:09:43.042-05:00Agree or not with Diageo's marketing of the Or...Agree or not with Diageo's marketing of the Orphan Barrel series, it seems to be working for them. In the few fine liquor stores around me that don't jack up the prices too much, these whiskies aren't sitting on shelves long at all. <br /><br />Bobbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-52955010499165112062014-05-27T16:06:40.315-05:002014-05-27T16:06:40.315-05:00I have said it before and I will say it again... ...I have said it before and I will say it again... I refuse to let the games and marketing of spirit companies (diageo this time) turn me off good bourbon/whiskies. Old Bernheim produced some of the worlds finest bourbons, its story is a powerful one and I feel sorry for anyone has has never owned or sipped on Old Bernheim bourbon. Amazing juice that is just about all gone... Daigeo is the only one, now, who can give us some of that juice (Unless BT saved some and did not use it all up on George T Stagg). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-63359041361905202382014-05-27T14:38:22.495-05:002014-05-27T14:38:22.495-05:00I agree that it's a missed opportunity and I&#...I agree that it's a missed opportunity and I'm certainly no cheerleader for Diageo, but isn't this presentation very much in line with how producers have hocked bourbon for decades, if not centuries? In the world of American whiskey, the only exception to made up stories and fake distillery names is the requirement that DSPs be placed on bottled in bond whiskey.<br /><br />Diageo may be taking a step backwards rather than forwards with this approach, but it certainly strikes me as an attempt to fit right in with the American whiskey landscape.AaronWFhttp://whiskeywonka.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-27269934524718912572014-05-27T12:46:05.676-05:002014-05-27T12:46:05.676-05:00I've had the Barterhouse, its super thin tasti...I've had the Barterhouse, its super thin tasting but the nose is great. You really get to experience a 20 year bourbon in the nose, just not in the taste or mouthfeel. This makes more sense now understanding that it was stored in the slower aging masonry house during its first years in existence.<br /><br />Of course, I'm just speaking about the whiskey in the bottle. I'm happy with my purchase but probably won't be buying a second bottle for myself. Might grab one as a gift since this is VERY accessible bourbon if you want to try something hyper aged but don't have the palate to appreciate a 20 year Pappy or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-79466163841755421222014-05-27T11:48:17.950-05:002014-05-27T11:48:17.950-05:00The cheesy branding of the Orphan Barrel Project i...The cheesy branding of the Orphan Barrel Project is a missed opportunity. These are interesting relics of the Bourbon history. I understand that Diageo sold off the brands that these whiskies were originally distilled for. But they could still have respected the history on the labels, rather than just go for silly pseudo-old fashioned fluff and hide all the relevant details in silence. <br /><br />Diageo behaves as if it doesn't consider Bourbon a whiskey category worthy of respect or honor. This behavior is evidenced in decades of actions that started with their divestment of all the many Bourbon brands and distilleries they possessed on day 1 of their corporate existence and extends through how they treat the Bourbon & American whiskey properties that remain with them - from the idea of setting up Pappy Van Winkle's office as the Bulleit Experience Visitor Center to calling the last barrels of venerable Old Bernheim distillery "Old Blowhard". There is real history there and Diageo takes a carnival funhouse approach. It is disrespectful and I, for one, thank you, Chuck Cowdery, for saying so.Josh Feldmanhttp://www.cooperedtot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-65909218167017682862014-05-27T10:50:21.311-05:002014-05-27T10:50:21.311-05:00Well I for one am going to save my money and pass ...Well I for one am going to save my money and pass on these bottles. <br />Thanks for letting us in on the provenance of the barrels. Personally, I rarely see any reason to drink bourbon any older than 12 years- and never at the prices I've seen these "orphans" going for. <br /> Regarding the names and bottle presentation: As an American whiskey drinker, I don't feel particularly insulted by Diageo. I don't think they are necessarily belittling American whiskey. To me its just another sign of the times for spirits marketing in general. After all, there's a Scotch called Pig's Nose, and Bruichladdich Scotch comes up with whimsical names and funky bottles for its product. And I don't have to tell you all the tacky names and presentations for brands or wine and beer out there. I'm not too keen on this kind of marketing, but apparently it works for some folks: and I bet they're a good bit younger than you and me. Paul Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-41337269048805999692014-05-27T10:40:51.956-05:002014-05-27T10:40:51.956-05:00I don't think we are the target market for thi...I don't think we are the target market for this product. Those methods of marketing would appeal to us, not the market they are going after.h4rr4rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10003977724256067713noreply@blogger.com