tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post7204813339079700704..comments2024-03-17T14:10:05.912-05:00Comments on The Chuck Cowdery Blog: Maker's Mark on Proof Change: "Never Mind"Chuck Cowderyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-76009472081989349962013-03-01T05:21:30.024-06:002013-03-01T05:21:30.024-06:00Seems to me that the Anonymous comment above this ...Seems to me that the Anonymous comment above this hits the nail on the head, and directly speaks to the "lesson" to which Mr Cowdery alluded. <br /><br />SOMEONE was being taught a lesson, and I don't think it was the people who are most directly involved in MM's production.JasonQnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-1689038826423045322013-02-24T13:54:22.655-06:002013-02-24T13:54:22.655-06:00This has more to do with share prices than anythin...This has more to do with share prices than anything else. Most of these companies are thought to be over bought by the markets.Investment will slow as no one wants to get in at the top. The thought of watering down whiskey to sell more at the same price may seem terrible to a whiskey lover but to an investor it is music to his ears. To investors it is not about maintaining profits which translates into dead money it is about exceeding growth of profits year over year and when it looks like that is no longer possible investors pull their money and millions if not billions of dollars leave a company regardless of steady sales. Therefore i don't think we have seen the last of this type of thing regardless of company and brand (if publicly traded). New launches will begin at lower proofs to show easier growth of margins and this will not be limited to the world of spirits you will see dilution everywhere there is market cap to be protectedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-69478507559330192602013-02-19T16:46:39.364-06:002013-02-19T16:46:39.364-06:00I think the simplest answer is most likely: the c...I think the simplest answer is most likely: the company was scared to increase price so they tried a different avenue, the same one that Jack Daniels pulled off in '02. But social media, which didn't exist back when Jack lowered ABV, prevailed on this one. MM and the Samuels family probably weren't expecting this much interest, and I think that they realized that they made a mistake. And it was a mistake because so many people jumped on the story and spread the word that this was a mistake. <br /><br />The difference between MM and Coke is massive so the comparison isn't apt. Coke was the industry leader whereas MM is one of very many different bourbon producers. I don't think MM would have knowingly taken such a risk.<br /><br />One interesting thing they did learn though: that customers will *beg* a company whose product they love to raise prices rather than dilute the integrity of the product. I think that's something that could only happen in the adult beverages industry. <br /><br />A deeper sociological question is why do people hold their beers and liquors and wines to these high standards compared to all of the other products we consume? Chuck Rosshttp://glpiggy.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-77073693122069295242013-02-19T13:26:03.975-06:002013-02-19T13:26:03.975-06:00Either way, this is a step in the right direction ...Either way, this is a step in the right direction which will at least set a president for those who want to make a change of their product in the future. You wonder what distilleries like Wild Turkey and JD are thinking now, with some of their past and future changes. The Bourbon Intelligencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06267280771622012510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-54114874643203751822013-02-18T16:08:54.403-06:002013-02-18T16:08:54.403-06:00One interesting observation is that while I know m...One interesting observation is that while I know many Maker's Mark Ambassadors, none of them complained to me about the change, they complained to Maker's. That's unusual loyalty. <br /><br />Was anything else behind this? I think someone was being taught a lesson.Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-30118183054267225022013-02-18T16:04:14.575-06:002013-02-18T16:04:14.575-06:00I have seen no evidence of this and was with a bun...I have seen no evidence of this and was with a bunch of Beam folks Monday and Tuesday of last week. I'm reminded of what Coke's president said, "we are neither that stupid nor that clever."Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-278833544662539412013-02-18T11:06:41.257-06:002013-02-18T11:06:41.257-06:00Makes me think of the new coke situation long ago....Makes me think of the new coke situation long ago. Were they just trying to ignite their base and it backfired?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-15589731238587128042013-02-17T19:00:36.746-06:002013-02-17T19:00:36.746-06:00Damn, this is really confusing.
Now I cant tell w...Damn, this is really confusing. <br />Now I cant tell which of their last 2 announcement is the lamest.NPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-62577077222515712582013-02-17T16:44:53.569-06:002013-02-17T16:44:53.569-06:00They produced the 84 proof for about a week. Nothi...They produced the 84 proof for about a week. Nothing will be recalled, so get your collector's edition while you can.Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-34388143523166266582013-02-17T16:14:41.795-06:002013-02-17T16:14:41.795-06:00As usual the spin is nice but there will be a ling...As usual the spin is nice but there will be a lingering stench of cynical marketing/brand pumping/news making. The suckers (I mean consumers) who ran out to collect the "last" of the 90's wil feel hard done by. (Raises hand).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-90039571030199652572013-02-17T14:20:05.811-06:002013-02-17T14:20:05.811-06:00Hmmm. Folks have been buying up our 90 proof Maker...Hmmm. Folks have been buying up our 90 proof Makers and we've got a pallet of the 84 proof waiting to go on the shelf! We've got a new collector's item! colbyjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10289956760325647768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-59053829397354454192013-02-17T12:48:59.530-06:002013-02-17T12:48:59.530-06:00Spin or not, I'll take it. They made a mistak...Spin or not, I'll take it. They made a mistake and reversed it. I'm glad to see that. Your coverage of this debacle has been the best out there Chuck. Cheers!<br /><br />-JasonJason Pylehttp://sourmashmanifesto.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-66248909024236224972013-02-17T12:17:39.683-06:002013-02-17T12:17:39.683-06:00I was surprised when they announced the lowering, ...I was surprised when they announced the lowering, but willing to try it and to see if there was a difference. Then I was surprised when Makers said that the lowering would be permanent and not just for the shortage. And now all never mind. This is a lot to handle in a week.jdlnoreply@blogger.com