tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post3354828870117717853..comments2024-03-17T14:10:05.912-05:00Comments on The Chuck Cowdery Blog: Jack Daniel's Rye Now 'Spirits Distilled from Grain'Chuck Cowderyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-50425010239556000022013-03-01T11:49:03.305-06:002013-03-01T11:49:03.305-06:00I too assume it's rarity that justifies the pr...I too assume it's rarity that justifies the price.Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-25836244858509533742013-03-01T11:36:29.097-06:002013-03-01T11:36:29.097-06:00I've seen these in stores now for around $50. ...I've seen these in stores now for around $50. That seems pretty high for an unaged spirit. Is it simply a rare product right now and that's why it's so expensive? I was curious about the taste, but not $50 curious.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04115681705985157756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-13876608626792060522013-01-26T14:34:51.055-06:002013-01-26T14:34:51.055-06:00I think I would have stood it in oak barrels for 2... I think I would have stood it in oak barrels for 24 hours and called it "Very Young" Rye Whisky and eliminated the challenge, and made a marketable product rather than unaged rye whitedog. Interested to see 1st POS suggesting uses for it!Trinity Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03523480547329596228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-590564583830549592013-01-20T12:36:19.104-06:002013-01-20T12:36:19.104-06:00What they are selling is not rye whiskey because i...What they are selling is not rye whiskey because it hasn't been aged, but they are aging some of the same liquid and that, once it has touched wood, is rye whiskey. After two years in new wood, it will be straight rye whiskey. Will consumers consider this current product to be 'unaged rye whiskey'? Yes, which is the intention, but they can't put the word 'whiskey' anywhere on the label due to the lack of aging.Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-46259653701552237432013-01-20T09:56:50.803-06:002013-01-20T09:56:50.803-06:00Is this a rye whiskey? The largest text on the la...Is this a rye whiskey? The largest text on the label says "Tennessee Rye," which suggests to me that this is a rye whiskey made in Tennessee. Maybe the TTB let it through because the word "Rye" is not followed by the word "Whiskey," but that seems lame, because the public surely considers a bottle of "rye" to be "rye whiskey" and not some other product. I would think it is in JD's best interest to guard the integrity of the text "Tennessee Rye," rather than let it be something other than rye whiskey made in TN.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15686105743046768902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-62093783396777770372013-01-19T11:19:59.587-06:002013-01-19T11:19:59.587-06:00What's the point of releasing an 80 proof whit...What's the point of releasing an 80 proof white dog? Well, other than to say "hey, we have an unaged spirit too!"SteveBMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10203167407546384904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-38268443071160490332013-01-18T10:43:37.220-06:002013-01-18T10:43:37.220-06:00Where I've had success it has been, like with ...Where I've had success it has been, like with the JD Rye, where I can point to a COLA, then to some facts as given by the producer, that render the label wrong. There's not a lot of feedback. As with the JD Rye, I have to wait until the product is released to see if anything was done. We don't have long, philosophical discussions. Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-13477121683271794022013-01-18T08:50:49.661-06:002013-01-18T08:50:49.661-06:00I'm in regular contact with the TTB as well. ...I'm in regular contact with the TTB as well. Of course all my communication is one sided, I complain about obvious violations and they do nothing. <br /><br />Totally agree with sku and love to see them start enforcing rules regarding state of distillation on label.Wadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02801508225614359464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-16848267529000185062013-01-18T08:00:56.956-06:002013-01-18T08:00:56.956-06:00Chuck, have you brought up some of the issues that...Chuck, have you brought up some of the issues that Sku mentioned? It's getting pretty ridiculous out there. BMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05036354965069864586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-66490318382504179512013-01-17T22:55:08.568-06:002013-01-17T22:55:08.568-06:00Now I don't feel quite as big an idiot for not...Now I don't feel quite as big an idiot for not having tried rye whiskey white dog yet. I have a few samples I never quite get around to tasting... Josh Feldmanhttp://cooperedtot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-21602773155716572192013-01-17T20:30:01.693-06:002013-01-17T20:30:01.693-06:00I've bought one bottle of white dog in my life...I've bought one bottle of white dog in my life. One was enough.Lazernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-43594698475608450812013-01-17T15:59:49.181-06:002013-01-17T15:59:49.181-06:00Like rye whiskey white dog. Milder than most, prob...Like rye whiskey white dog. Milder than most, probably because of the charcoal filtration. Bright citrus, a little grass. It's on the thin side, which you would expect with so little corn and no wood sugars yet.Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-34864300532844298672013-01-17T15:34:16.724-06:002013-01-17T15:34:16.724-06:00So, how does that white dog rye actually taste?So, how does that white dog rye actually taste?Josh Feldmanhttp://cooperedtot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-37462241431151123562013-01-17T14:45:24.708-06:002013-01-17T14:45:24.708-06:00I didn't mean to take your moment away! I thin...I didn't mean to take your moment away! I think it's great that you you got TTB to change their mind and actually pay attention to their own rules.Rob Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15604826633798229422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-71338234812755888752013-01-17T14:40:44.469-06:002013-01-17T14:40:44.469-06:00You're right of course, Rob, in that this is c...You're right of course, Rob, in that this is certainly better for JD, but let me have my little moment. I am in regular communication with TTB, Sku, on a variety of issues. We seem to have developed a pretty good working relationship.Chuck Cowderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12191121480961526039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-85833097247009536952013-01-17T14:34:31.786-06:002013-01-17T14:34:31.786-06:00Congrats, Chuck. If JD is going to get pushed aro...Congrats, Chuck. If JD is going to get pushed around - they couldn't wish for a nicer or more knowledgable guy to do it! Logic has appeared to have prevailed here. Thanks for defending the "whiskey geek" end of the field!Josh Feldmanhttp://cooperedtot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-32340576356130389982013-01-17T14:11:42.929-06:002013-01-17T14:11:42.929-06:00Nice work Chuck! I don't know that I've e...Nice work Chuck! I don't know that I've ever heard of the TTB taking action in response to a non-party in such a way. Really impressive.<br /><br />Now that you've shown yourself to have some serious pull with the TTB, do you think you could get them to enforce the rest of their rules that seem to slide (state of distillation, age statements, etc.)?skuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487419662314518931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-840930092789285091.post-65181913885083181262013-01-17T13:59:35.693-06:002013-01-17T13:59:35.693-06:00I wouldn't say "forced". I'd say...I wouldn't say "forced". I'd say "helped" or "enabled", since they didn't want to label it the way ATF said they had to in the first place.Rob Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15604826633798229422noreply@blogger.com